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In this episode of FinOps on Azure, Michael Stephenson sits down with Frank Contrepois, independent FinOps voice and co-host of The FinOps Guys podcast — to explore what it really means to manage cloud costs from a business-first perspective. Frank has been in the FinOps space for nearly a decade and brings a genuinely different angle to the conversation. His background in commodity trading at Strategic Blue (a Morgan Stanley spinoff) shaped how he thinks about reserved instances, commitment strategies, and why most teams approach cost management the wrong way round.

With hyperscalers, growth comes with a hidden cost. The more your data moves, the more you pay, by design. Egress fees are that cost. A model built to discourage migration, limit flexibility, and keep you trapped in their ecosystem. At Civo, we've eliminated that barrier completely. No egress fees, no hidden charges. Every cost is transparent and predictable, so you always know exactly what you're paying for. You stay because you choose to. That's cloud freedom.

In this episode of "Kubernetes for Humans," Stefana Muller, VP of Infrastructure & Operations at Salesforce, shares her fascinating journey from technical support to navigating the massive scale of the Own Backup acquisition. Stefana dives into the immense multi-cloud Kubernetes challenges of scaling from 18,000 to over 52,000 clusters, standardizing environments across AWS and Azure, and leveling up security to meet stringent Salesforce standards.